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Okay, I'll get about 10ft since its pretty cheap. Should I go ahead and get some 0 ga too just in case I don't have enough left over from my amp kit for the big 3?

ok, so I'll get a BL Dual 2, SAE 1200D, Knukonceptz 1/0 amp kit with 200 amp fuse and then use my 16ga speaker wire from my other amp kit for my sub-to-amp wire. And for my enclosure I'll do 2.5ft tuned to 30Hz. is 16ga enought, or do I need to buy some new wire when I get my amp kit?

Okay, I'm planning on getting an SAE 1200D and a 1/0 amp kit from knukonceptz. I have to choose which size fuse to get with the kit. based on my amp, which size fuse would be best? And will I need additional speaker wire to run from my sub to my amp? I have an 8 gauge amp kit from my old system. could I use that wire for my speaker wire? here is the amp kit I was going to get: http://www.knukonceptz.com/productDetail.cfm?prodID=KFX-PK0

Hello, I was planning on buying a new system a couple months ago and I had it all planned out. I was going to get 1 12" Fi BTL, but something came up and I couldn't get it. But, I'm back in the market for a new system now and my goals have changed a little. I'm in love with the ridiculously low bass. I listen to a lot of C&S and slowed songs. I don't want to have to upgrade my alternator (It's a 135amp) so I'm not going to get a BTL. I've been doing tons of research and have narrowed it down to the Q or the BL. whichever one I get will be a 12" fully loaded running off either an AQ1200D or an SAE 1200 in a 2.5ft enclosure. I know the Q is SQ and the BL is more SPL, but from what I've read the Q can hit lower than the BL. I was going to get a Q and tune it to 30Hz, but now I'm having second thoughts and want to get the BL bc of the SPL. my question is: will the added xmax for the lows of the Q outweigh the added SPL of the BL? and is 30Hz too low for regular (not slowed) songs to be loud? Thanks, Joe

Ok, thanks guys

Hi, I'm going to build a new system in the next month or so and at the moment this is what I'm looking at getting. 1 Fi BTL 12" or 15" MB Quart 1500 watt amp (I'll add more power when I upgrade my electrical further) However, I found a 15" Ascendant Audio Chaos on craigslist for $220 with a 4 cubic ft. enclosure. The guy says its in good condition and has only been running on 500wrms. I don't know anything about the AA line of subs. Which Fi sub would it compare to? Would it be worth the extra money to get the BTL? My goal is the loudest system under $800 heres the link to the post: Ascendant auidio 15" Chaos W/4cube ported box Thanks, Joe

I double checked the price and I was thinking about the MB Quart 2000 watt one for 300. The 1500 is actually ~210. I'll check my trunk dimensions to see which would fit better between the 12 and 15. I'll take a look at that Sundown sae 1200 though! Thanks for all the help! Edit: I have my sub and amp picked out, but I don't have an encosure to put it in I looked at the Fisher Customs and Audibel Customs and both are in my price range, but I was wondering if any of you had any experience with them (good or bad) that you could share with me. I'm leaning towards the Audibel Customs because they come double baffled, carpeted, and the subs are flush mounted. Audibel Customs: 1 12" $114 1 15" $135 Fisher Customs (with carpet 4.0 cubes) $210 The Audibel Customs doesn't include shipping, but I can't imagine it making up for the price difference (how much would shipping be for an enclosure?) Also, The Audibel customs will do a kerffed port for 15% more. I know what a kerffed port looks like, but I don't know what they do I have a trunk, so would it be best for my enclosure to be sub up, port back, or sub back, port back. Or does it make any difference. Thanks!

Thanks! I think I'm gonna go with the 15" BTL and an MB Quart 1500 watt amp (unless there's something better for the same price. I found one for 300.) Do I need to get anything except the cooling option? (its free between now and the end of may.) And should I go with D1 or D2?

Ok. I've been doing a lot of research and from what I've read kicker and JL are sort of overrated compared to DC, Incriminator, Ascendent etc. I'm sure they're worth the money, but I just want to be different than everyone else at my school who jumps on the bandwagon and goes the usual kenwood, rockford, JL route

What do you mean by mainstream?

I'd like to keep the sub and amp around 5-700 so I can get an enclosure and wiring kit and keep it all under 1000. Do you know how large of an amp I can safely run off my 130amp alternator with 1 battery? (assuming I do the big 3). As long as I can run the amp for it, I'll go with a BTL. Would it be a bad idea to get a 1200 or 1500 watt amp for now and then upgrade my alt and amp in the future? I double checked my alternator and it's 135 and I have a battery that has 3 numbers on it. They say 1000 cranking amps, 850 and 150 reserve

How do you think the AQ HDC3-Aluminum would compare to a BTL? (the reason I'm interested in Fi so much is it's a good, loud sub for a reasonable price. I wish I could go with a DC level 4 or xl, but it's just out of my budget :/) My other question is what electrical upgrades would I need to do? I haven't done the big 3 yet (I'll probably use the leftover from wiring my amp etc.) and I just checked my alternator for my model car online and it's only 130amps. I guess that rules out the BTL?

By "SSD" do you mean the Fi SSD or SSA as in Sound Solutions Audio? If the Fi SSD, it's not really what you want if your goal is volume. Not saying that they couldn't get loud, but the BTL or BL is more what you'd want. If SSA, then I'd say XCON, but since you really don't care about SQ then I'd look somewhere else. Not saying the XCONs can't shake the crud out of your car, but I think you'd be happier with a BTL than an XCON. Ascendant look at them Mayhem or Havoc. yeah, I meant the SSA. I'll look into those. thanks

Why steer clear of AQ? They have many respected products for the price. Judging by your statement you were suggesting it is bad quality. I mean I have my unexplainable biases as well :: , but AQ should not be thrown out without a reason. Although, I agree with the Fi BL, great sub for the price and it gets loud with a properly built box (extremely important in your case, a 15 in the right ported box pounds!!!). I would at least try a lower model before stepping up to a BTL, it is a beast of a sub. There are plenty of other subs too, I wouldn't get stuck on one particular one like you seem to be with the BTL. Research into DC Sound Labs Level 4 and the XL, good subs for the money. There are also Ascendant Audio and SSA subs, and they really get loud without sacrificing SQ. I know you say you want loud, but it is good to have some experience before you go for the gold. With the right amp and enclosure these will get plenty LOUD, without sounding like poo. As for amps, the AQ 1200d, SAE-1200d v2, Elemental Designs NINe.1, Nakamichi 1200d (on sale at woofersetc), and many more, just check around the forum and see what people are using. I took a look at the DC level 4s and XLs, but they're a little out of my budget :/ I understand what you're saying though about starting a little lower than a BTL (or equivalent) and then working up, but I have a feeling that if I got a BL or something I would want to move up to the BTL after a little while and It would end up being more expensive in the long run. If I decide to go with a "monster" sub and it turns out to be too much, could I mess with the EQ in my headunit or run less power to it to make it more manageable? How large of an amp can I use before I need to get another battery? If I would have to do that for a ~2000 watt sub, then I'll probably go with a BL or something. What subs from SSD and Ascendant Audio would you recommend? Also, how much should I be looking at spending to have an enclosure built?

Ok, would 1 15" BTL be good? I think it's ~200amps. Do you know of any specific amps that would be good for the 1 15" btl?