SQLMonte

Sound quality is accurate reproduction of the source. That's not subjective. Your personal preference is subjective. Is it possible to quantify all aspects of a systems sound quality? Well, theoretically it's probably possible however practically it's pretty difficult. But that doesn't mean you can substitute your personal preference of "sounds good" for accuracy to the source and still call it "sound quality", especially if the measurable properties do not coincide with an accurate reproduction of the source. So judges listening to a system and scoring it based on what they hear is not subjective? Maybe you're the one who should be quiet instead of making such ridiculous and clearly contradicting statements.

I wasn't one of those people, nor do I know what you're talking about but I will commend you for making a public apology cause alot of people have too much pride to do so.

I think we agree more than we don't because if you were to remove the acronym """SQL""" from the above and put "loud" in it's place the same would hold true. That being said, the issue is with the omission of necessary info, not necessarily with the terms.

your box doesn't have to be 2.5ft tall in order to be 2.5 cubes.

They'll just find something else to bitch about

I tried it, boosted the cb by +3, but I couldn't tell a difference at all....gonna try foobar2000

It's just a term guys, no matter how you feel about it, it's just a term.

Honestly speaking, I don't give a shit if anyone around me can hear my system or not, why should I care? The smokers don't give a damn if I like the smell of the nasty ass cigs they smoke next to me at the red light or if that smoke gets in my car so why should I care about if they like my loud beat or if it shakes the hell out of their car? I bump when I wanna bump, period! Now I don't go slappin' through a neighborhood at 11pm but during the daytime I get it in!

That's exactly why it shouldn't be used. Well by that logic neither should loud. What's loud to me may not be loud to you. Can you answer me this please, why does it bother you so much how somebody chooses to describe their system, be it loud, sq, spl or ""SQL""? If SQ was so cut and dry, there would be no need to have multiple judges at SQ shows, but obviously what sounds good to one guy doesn't sound good to the next. I think there are more things to lose sleep over compared to whether or not somebody is using the SUBJECTIVE term ""SQL"" properly. Keyword: SUBJECTIVE

i agree. it shouldnt have to be black and white. everyone looks at it like there should be no shades of grey. i prefer spl subs, with sq mids and highs... and i feel like whenever i mention this, people think im committing a crime. It just falls back to people wanting everything to fit into a neat little box and when it doesn't they try to make it. I'm right there with you though, I'm not SQ, i'm not SPL, i'm a mixture of both!I like that guys idea though, Clean n' Loud! Although i'm not very loud ATM and likely won't be until I get both of my 2512's

That's what happens when you mix inbreds with car audio

Well said. I caught alot of flack from the keyboard commando's too when I decided to get a HiFonics amp for my mids/highs but i've yet to get a single complaint about the SQ of my system.

Nope, i'm working on getting a h/o alt first then I'll upgrade to

I currently have a pair of ID12d2v3 subs in a Subzone ported box, 4 cubes, tuned to 30Hz with subs/port firing back and powered by an AQ1200D wired to 2 ohms (870 watts rms). This setup surprised me a few ways 1. The subs are rated at 250 rms, i'm giving them almost double that 2. Subs don't get stinky, never have 3. Never expected the output im getting from this setup, it hits way deeper and gets way louder than I expected it would. I do have some complaints though 1. The box is way too big, IMO. 2. While it bangs the lows pretty good, the higher bass notes are severely lacking 3. Not getting full power out of my amp That being said, and in light of the recent electrical issues I experienced (which have since been resolved) that resulted me in pulling out the system, I have decided that it's time to rebuild my substage. It was louder than I expected it to be but I want it even louder! I've decided to go with 2 2512's and an AQ2200D, does this sound like a good combo? The DD's are pretty expensive so i'm going to get one for now and run it off my AQ1200D @ 1 ohm (1200-1470 watts rms) until I can afford to get the other sub and amp. I'm going to install the sub in a custom built 1.75 cube box tuned to about 36Hz with the sub/port firing forward and sealed off from the trunk. Anybody think the new setup will be louder than my current one? I haven't metered my current setup so I have no idea what it does number wise but it's not bad for what it is. Anybody think I'll have a problem running 1200-1400 watts to the single sub now or the 2200-2400 watts to the pair in the furture?

Yeah, download better quality songs, never mind the FACT that not all cd's are recorded at the same volume level

True story!

I don't understand why people get so up in arms when something doesn't fit it a nice neat little box. My take on the issue is that it's subjective, just like the term "loud." To me, ""SQL"" means the mesh of a more SPL focused sub stage with a more SQ focused front stage, hence my username. In my car i'm running a 3 way active setup with my mids/highs all time aligned and balanced out for optimal soundstage and imaging. The only thing SQ about my sub stage is the driver itself, beyond that it's more geared towards spl than sq. From being in car audio for so long I have realized that I don't fit either of the "boxes", spl or sq, I like the sq side of things when it comes to mids and highs, but the spl side of things when it comes to bass. Why can't people just accept that, why does it have to be either a or b?

I believe it! Some friends and I went to GC for dinner a couple weeks ago, first time I had ever been there, and I was pretty impressed with their food. Soo much selection and everything that I had was good. It's like Disneyland for fat people!!

I'm always a fan of Belgian waffles! Any breakfast that includes Belgian waffles is a good breakfast!!

Well obviously it's possible, I don't think they were saying it wasn't. So how much voltage drop do those cars have? I guarantee you it's not running at 14.4 when the system is bangin' like that.

At least you understood that clearly! And just for the record, I've had systems in my car since I was 17yrs old and never have I purchased any of the products i'm "boycotting"....I did have a Power HX2 12" for a while but that was only due to me trading 2 MTX 10's for it. But beyond that, I've never owned any of the aforementioned products, and it's not like they're the only one's that make decent products in the car audio world. But anyways, i'm done speaking on the subject, it is what it is. Carry on...

Yeah, I think that's what I need to finalize, the solid end goal. I'm hoping that the one 2512 being pushed off my AQ1200D @ 1 ohm would satisfy me, but that remains to be seen. WinISD doesn't like my machine for some reason but I do have BBP6 so I think I'll play around with it a bit and see what it can do. Thanks for the help and suggestions, it's helping me learn more and understand better At least you understood that clearly! And just for the record, I've had systems in my car since I was 17yrs old and never have I purchased any of the products i'm "boycotting"....I did have a Power HX2 12" for a while but that was only due to me trading 2 MTX 10's for it. But beyond that, I've never owned any of the aforementioned products, and it's not like they're the only one's that make decent products in the car audio world. But anyways, i'm done speaking on the subject, it is what it is. Carry on...