deanmpereira

So I hear a lot of disagreements with this passive active thing? do you feel that since im not on the level you guys are on that I will be able to tell the difference? should I do more research on a active system? like i said im not really looking for a SQ competition set up you know? Im just looking for something that sounds really good to the average listener. would a pair of those hybrids fit what im looking for? like i stated earlier the idea of just a front stage is kinda new to me. and from things I have previously heard the Premier series was the best. so i realize that you guys are having some disagreements on whether to run passive or active, but is the difference going to be out of my understanding??? because the passive system seems to be alot easier to run.. and cheaper. and for the subs.. they will be underneath my seat, not behind it. The silverado is set up different then the Dodge's and fords. there's very little room behind the seats, only enough to mount the amps and stuff. and after looking into it a little more it looks like (without sacrificing foot space) I have about 2 cuft of usable space... I could bring it out a little more and lose some foot space, but it looks like the 12's ported are out of the question. Currently i have two 10's sealed in a .7 cuft box (each chamber, after displacement) but have a little more space available before losing foot space. thanks guys

The only input I can put in on this thread is, if you dont have the room for 2-12" ported in the right enclosure then dont do it (too small of a box will choke your subs). Whenever you do look into subs, there are some companies like Sundown who make subs to do well in smaller than normal size boxes, for instance there SA-12"s can be tossed in 3.5ft^3 enclosure after displacements (port, bracing and subs). To get the most out of your subs put them in the right amount of space and you will slam, just my .02 Yea thats why i was considering the Q series because they are for small enclosures as well, Ill do a little more poking around but from the looking I did I thought the Q's were recommended for the smallest enclosures comparably speaking. Do you feel two 12's sealed or two 10's ported would have better output?

Well honestly I havn't put alot of thought into the amps yet. Im still not sure on what speakers im going to go with. I figured i might as well wait tell i know exactly what im going run before looking into the amp world. But yes i realize i need to give the amps just as much thinking and money as the speakers. I just figured id kinda look into it after I came to a concrete choice on what speakers im going to run. but all of this will hopefully be done asap. I have the funds just trying to learn as much as possible before making my choice. and as for the comment on the subs.. as you know im doing all of this to a silverado, and ill have to take some more accurate measurements but i believe 2 12's ported is going to be a little bigger than the space im going to have available. so i could easily do two 10's ported, but 2 12's might be a problem? whats your input on that? and thanks for the companies i will definitely be taking some time looking into them, should I be looking at the three way systems more so than the two ways? it seems like your a fan of the hybrids personally? and thanks alot mjmarovl your really helpin me out so far im liking the clarus, and im liking what hybrid has to say about there product. but i also like the Zapco- competition set for 650, and the morels...

yes I apologize for not responding to that, but honestly as long as its a good investment im not to worried about price. obviously the lower the better but I wouldn't be to worried spending 600 or so? maybe even higher if its something that catches my eye. Im only 20 and listen to alot of varieties of music, from rap to country to rock. I told one of my buddies "who is slightly more knowledgeable than I in audio" that I was contemplating just doing a front stage, and he looked at me like I was stupid. Basically my future goals "as of now" is to get the Premier Double din Navigation system. A pair of FI Q's not positive exactly but I believe 12's sealed. and new components. Iv been looking around on the sound dampening forums and am currently Dynomating the majority of the cab and will try a few other things that caught my eye when it comes to mounting the mid drivers and deadening my doors further more. so long story short Im not necessarily looking for a strict SQ setup. (If my understanding of SQ is correct) Basically Im looking to find a set of components that sound really good but can be cranked up at times as well. "basically me and my buddy have been messing around with car audio since we started driving in high school, and he outdid me with a BL 15 and some "ok" components so now its my turn to kinda catch up." And as for the install A passive setup consisting of Drivers in the doors, and tweeters on the dash up against the front windshield, is what seems to be doable for my knowledge range. Obviously if i get a 3 way set up I can throw the midrange wherever need be. My truck seems to be the one everyone rides in when going out. My personal goal is to have a setup that sounds great to me and the average listener in my truck. "and if this helps, I do prefer the sound of the silk dome tweeters from the cheaper brands that I have heard.. I like the more mellow sound compared to the more bright and sharpe metal domes"

oh really? and I suppose now you are going to tell me the best sounding cars in the world are active and not passive? haha sorry, but I have some strong foundations on this stuff, maybe you would like me to grab a couple world class SQ guys to chime in? oh, and I would also love for you to tell Scott Buwalda, the godfather of Sound Quality (before Hybrid even existed) that the car that won back to back SQ world championships with kick-panel installs has problem with stage height! LOL I would love to see you try tell him that. Kicks work great because they are further away from you, and the distance difference from left and right drivers is very minimal, so sound waves hit you at the same time resulting in the affect of the drivers sounding as if they are far in front of you, and present a beautiful stage that is at eye level (ear-level) and also great stage width as that is also the widest spot in the vehicle. In SUV's many times kicks are even that much better because the dash overhand doesn't interfere. however, trucks are much wider than cars and usually a couple m/s t. corr. fixes the problem where it feels as if you are sitting on the left side of the stage from the driver's seat. Well im glad that my post is getting people fired up. but back to suggestions on what you would do if you had a silverado and wanted to put new components in it? thanks for the help guys. it would just help if there was somewhere in the sacramento area i could get some more help, or at least listen to some high end components, cause like i said, I like the premiers... but i havn't listened to anything of higher quality, or something with just a front stage..

so should I look into these three brands and look into a three way system? and yes I think a passive system would be a better option for me.

So for those of you that are running a single pair in a silverado where are you placing the tweeters? I was thinking on the top of the dash/front columns, up against the bottom of the front windshield? the only thing is that would be pretty far from the drivers. is there a better location that im missing? the stock location doesn't seem very optimal either? And I can see how 4 tweeters in that small of a cab would be overkill... what speakers would you guys recommend then? the only reason I like the Premier 720's is because thats one of the better products "local" audio shops have and those are the ones i like out of the ones iv heard.. Compared to speakers such as alpine type x's. the only reason i was going to go with 2 pairs is because iv never really heard a setup up with a good front stage. I am very interested in just doing a front stage, but not exactly sure on what i need to focus on? any ideas on some good component sets? price not a huge issue.

Thanks for the fast and helpfull info guys!

sounds like its going to be two 12's then thanks for the help guys, and yes it will be my first FI speakers. I was debating between the FI Q and the ICON the deciding factor being the amount of space availbable in my truck. will .8 cuft "after displacement" be suffiecent? I have heard a few people say "as well as in the recommended enclosure thread" that 1.2-1.3 is really optimal. and theres a pretty big difference between .8 and 1.2 cuft and also would 1000rms to each sub make since? that is what there rated, but i was just curious if less would be equal or more would be better? feels like two really stupid questions... but thanks for the help...

I am looking for Sound Quality, I would also like to be as loud as possible while sounding good, but i do understand that you cant really have both