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Either one will be in ~2.8^3 after displacements tune to 30-32Hz. Q 15D2 would be run with an AP15001D. Xcon 15D2 would be run by an AP18001D. This will be a daily ground pounder setup that I might throw in a bass race when a show comes town. Looking to be musical, get low, and still be loud. Electrical will be a 140 amp ho alt, red top up front, 100ah in trunk. Which choice do you think would better suit my wants? Thanks.

The new tc subs are prety sweet, they have also come down in price considering the axis 15 used to go for close to $700 now it think they are in the $500 range Yeah $450 shipped at partsexpress. I am really diggin this sub. I hear the old school ones where pretty bad ass. I really like the fact that the recone comes with the whole top assembly. Its like a step up on Kicker's SPAIR technology. No having to pay someone to do a recone.

Was planning a SSA XCON 15D2 for income tax, but just stumbled upon this Brand new designs Unleash your music with room to spare with the Axis 15Q1 15" subwoofer. The AXIS is designed with high motor force, long excursion and very high power handling to provide loud deep bass in the mobile environment, or any environment where small enclosure size and ultra-high SPL are required. The AXIS has a 40+ pound motor, flat-wound 8-layer conductor voice coil on a triple reinforced stainless steel former; it works harder so you don't have to give up half your car to a large subwoofer box. Specifications: • Power handling: 1,000 watts RMS/4,000 watts peak • Le: 9 mH • Impedance: 1.2 ohms per coil x 4 • Re: 4.83 ohms • Frequency range: 15 - 150 Hz • Fs: 23.0 Hz • SPL: 87.5 dB • Vas: 4.51 cu. ft. • Qms: 6.70 • Qes: 0.42 • Qts: 0.39 • Xmax: 26.5 • Dimensions: Overall diameter 15.60", Cutout diameter 14.02", Depth 9.28" • Weight: 53.2 lbs. Note: All specifications are with voice coils connected in series. High-temperature low eddy-current stainless steel voicecoil former Quad 1.2 ohm voicecoil using 8-layer flatwound Aluminum wire Extra-tall gap for higher BL and additional power-handling 10" linear spider suspension with large integral lead-wires 225 oz. magnet motor structure Patent-pending XBR tall profile surround for 3" peak-to-peak travel Field-replaceable top assembly system Single dish aircraft-grade Aluminum alloy cone Very high BL for efficient low-frequency performance and small enclosure designs I really like the idea of it being specifically designed for a small enclosure. Would be run off my AP15001D at 1 ohm (quad 1 ohm, 2 coils wired up to 2, 4 coils wired down to 1) in a iamamp3pimp box (of course) tuned low ~30. What do yall think?

Wow, I am smitten. Where have you been all my life, lol. Excellent idea and choice of sub. That is exactly what these subs do, get low, yet still be loud, and sound good doing it. I think you already have one happy husband, but he will be down right ecstatic when he opens this birthday present.

Sounds like a plan. Thanks guys.

Yes, I definately still want to get loud. I was leanin towards the Xcon, but the Q setup would be way cheaper, lol. The Q is ~$100 less itself and I already have the AP15001D, so I wouldn't have to buy the AP18001D. Ok, next question. Would there be an audible difference with the Xcon 15 between the AP15001D and the AP18001D?

Just completed my new budget build (well all my builds are budget builds, lol) including 1 set of Crescendo CCX65's in the front doors off an AP3002 for 160 rms per door, 1 set of Wally World Sony Xplod 3-way 6x9's off the KDC-X493 head unit, and a Power Acoustik V1 MOFO-12D2 in a 2.8^3 @ 36Hz birch box built by Robin "iamamp3pimp" off an AP15001D. Very impressed by the CCX65's and the MOFO gets down for 1 12, especialy a Power Acoustik! And I always love my Audiopipe amps. Enjoy.

Lookin great man. Glad you are gettin the kinks worked out. There might be a meter session goin down in Wesley Chapel on the 21st of this month. Still in the development stage right now, but if it pans out I will shoot you a PM and we can get this beast on a TL FTW! Should check out my new budget build I just finished. Pretty happy for the $500 I got into it.

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ANY amp can put out dirty power, lol. Just because it's labeled Sundown, Incriminator, or Audique doesn't automatically deem it clean power. As was stated earlier with the sub, an amp is a dumb thing and it will do exactly what you tell it too. You can get clean power just fine out of a lower priced amp (as I have with my Audiopipes) if you know how to properly set your gains and such. Not trying to be a dick here, just don't want the OP thinking just because he has a Sundown amp he doesn't have to worry about clipping the shit out of his sub and blowing it or that if he uses a HiFonics amp his sub will blow as soon as he hooks it up beause they only put out dirty power.

Definately go with Knu or welding cable. DB Link 1/0 is also very thick and doesn't cost that much. My father is an industrial mechanic and got me some 2/0 industrial power wire they use on the big machines and shit. Not very flexible (had to run it under the car) but works great for me.

Thank you sir. I don't know about the new Mofo 2X series but these old school ones kick ass for a cheaper brand sub. Absolutely LOVE them! Hands down best set of compnents you will find at this price point. Very crisp and clear even crossed over as low as 60Hz. Really like the tweets, they are slightly bright but can be compensated by placing them on the -3 db setting. They are loud and clear without that "tiss" sound you usually get at high volumes. I'd be willing to bet money these babys would hold their own against components that cost twice as much. I garuntee if you give them a chance you won't regret it. Thanks for the comments.

Original is what we were lookin for. Just posted some vids of my new install, nothin close to what you got goin on, but I'm proud of it. You should check it out and tell me what you think. Thanks.

Lookin great man. Very original and creative. Really diggin the led's in the spider's eyes. Keep up the great work. You got one lucky boy.

Not sure if galacticmonkey is on this forum, but I know he has alot of experience with the 4th orders and he does designs for people. Just something to think about. BTW, that 18" NS is sexy as hell!

Thanks.

Some people don't mind paying a little more for better quality stuff. I pay very good money for my gear, because I expect it to perform at a very high rate, for a long time. I don't mind spending more money on my amps than you have in your whole system. In fact, the majority of my gear, in individual pieces, cost more then your whole system. The only thing by itself that didn't is my sub amp, which happens to be a Cadence ZRS amp. When you stop and think about it, that says a lot. I have $600 in subs, $900 in front stage amp, $1000 in front components, and a $150 Cadence sub amp. Did you catch that? If someone spends that kind of money in an SQ system and buys a $150 sub amp, that speaks volumes about the quality of that amp. Perhaps it isn't worth it to you, but to me it really is. I have exactly what I want, it sounds amazing, looks great, delivers a clean, pure sound, and it is extremely dependable. Perhaps people just want nicer things. Just because you can't afford it, doesn't mean that others can't, and it doesn't mean they shouldn't. Cheap isn't better... in fact, it is usually a sign of cost cutting measures... or a possible concern over long term dependability. Also, not a single amp listed will break the budget at all. Everybody's suggestions fell right within, or just a shade over the OP's set budget. Nobody is recommending anything based on a name, the above suggested amplifiers are all really solid performers at great prices. There is no stigma associated with any brand listed, they are all small company units. Nobody is recommending JL because of their big name status, they are recommending amplifiers they use, or have seen in use, that offer rated or better, very reliable, and dependable power. No offense, but I would never put an Audiopipe amp in my car. I have never seen any testing done on the amplifier at all, and as far as reliability, it hasn't been out long enough to prove that it is reliable and dependable, and frankly it is pretty dirty power. Besides, your sig says the gear is coming soon... so I have to ask, are you basing your suggestion on first hand knowledge, or just blindly suggesting gear? Finally, your opinion on the matter is not the only one that counts. In fact, seeing as how you recommend the same amp all the time, it is important that the OP realize this and consider the suggestion accordingly. This is a forum with varying opinions, and experiences. There is no "/thread" like you suggest. And as far as the dickhead comment; You might need to grow up a little. It is about that time. If you are old enough to have your driver's license, you should really act like it. Very well said. I apologize for my hasty remarks. I personally use only Audiopipe amps in my car. Quality, reliability, and a warranty all at a great price is what I have found from my experience. I have 3 kids, a mortgage, and a college tuition all on a single income family. So I have spent a couple years going thru the lower priced brands trying to find a balance between cost and quality. I have used Power Acoustik and Audiopipe mostly. In my opinion, Audiopipe amps and subs are the epitome of that balance. While Power Acoustik subs take a close second, but their amps are pretty much garbage. Please forgive my immaturity in this matter. In the future I will take into account that not everyone is on such a tight budget as I.

Fuck it, if yall wanna spend as much money on an amp as I spent on my whole system go right ahead. That's your choice. But don't talk shit when I offer someone a low cost alternative just cause it doesn't say Sundown, AQ, DD, or Cadence on the front of it. To each their own I suppose. And with that I wash my hands of this nonsense. Good day. Oh yeah, btw dickhead

You are aware that there are other amplifiers out there, right? You need to expend your horizons a bit. To the OP, I like the Cadence ZRS amp. I have been using their amps for a decade now, and they always do better than rated and are exceptionally reliable... I still run a ~ 10 year old Z7000HC (1500@1 class AB) on my Brahma in my hot rod. The ZRS amps are very solid amps, and I am actually using a ZRS6000D on my subs in my daily driver right now. It puts out rated, and then some, has a nice small footprint and doesn't even get warm. The output is quite clean too. I am aware there are other amps out there, thank you Mr. Obvious. Point is, I know for a fact that the AP series amps from Audiopipe are solid and reliable at a great price. The OP asked for suggestions on amps that would be in his price range and work with the Xcon which is rated at 1750 rms, hence I suggested the AP18001D. Being cheap (~$190 shipped), proven to do rated power, and proven to be reliable I concluded this was an acceptable solution to his dilemma. You are aware there are other things to do on the net besides troll and be a dick, right? You need to expand your horizons a bit.

http://vminnovations.com/product_4486/Audiopipe_AP1800D_1800W_Mono_Power_Amplifier.html /thread

Mine are on their way. $99.99 shipped FTMFW!

I went to a local car audio shop looking for 12 gauge speaker wire and was asked why when 16 gauge was good enough for any sub . When I told him I was running a 15 on 2K he said well thats alot of power, you better use 8 gauge . Then proceded to have his flunkie go out in the install bay and return with 2 ~8 foot runs of 8 gauge, one + and one - that had just been removed from a customer's car (you could see the bends from it being ran and it was corroded green on the ends. He tried to sell it to me for $2 a foot . I politely refused and have not been back since. Oh yeah, lol. The first thing he said to me when I told him what equipment I had was "Your first mistake was not buying from me!" Lulz. It was a Kicker/JL Audio/Street Wires store.

2 18" Wardens and Two Mmats. Doing port on driver side soon and adding more power. Testing has been sketchy at best, the heat has been sabotaging my scores in a big way so yeah..... Looking forward to future pics/vids. The heat has been rediculous here, it's either 95 or so or raining, and it only rains enough to make things humid instead of cool. So, what part of FLorida are you from, lol?

It's absolutely breathtaking!

Why spend ~$400 on a sub just to throw it in a $75 box? For ~$200 or less I'm sure there is someone on this forum that will build you a box for that beast. I used to use pre-fab Obcon/RT Boxes, they are probably the best pre-fab box you can buy and after getting iamamp3pimp to build my first custom box I will NEVER go back to pre-fab. A systems performance is 90% install and install is 90% box. You can take a Sony Xplod and put it in a well built 4th order and make it sound great. Just my $.02.