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That would have to be some intense caulking haha. Maybe expansion joint caulking, I never have used that in a box, only 15+ story buildings. Of course I don't think outside the box, well inside... (sweet almost pun)

Good to hear you love it, I got that and the DSC 480 coming in hopefully tomorrow. Should be enough for my front stage :: 500 a side for midbass and the other bridged on horns haha.

Haha, I actually randomly saw him at Cook-Out or McDonalds here in Durham, can't remember which one. He let me hear it in person and it sounded real clean. I am looking for a good bit louder though, I am at 147.8 at about 32 Hz right now, but those 13Av.2s are not very efficient, I have to run my amp at .5 ohm to do that.

The zapco FTW out of those amps. There are plenty more that will do that power with decent SQ. What is it for? I just bought a couple MB Quart DSC amps off caraudiodeals.com for $260 combined, shipped. Pretty sweet deal and they are used by a lot of people. Sundown 50.4, ED Nine.4, and some ARC Audio FD series (really clean, woofersetc has the FD 2100 for $99 so two of those would set you right) are good choices as well. I would say the Zapco, sundown, ED, and ARC amps are all underrated too.

New jackhammer is a square 24 inch.... Yea, i would like to see it too. But i think it's quite annoying to Scott and Nick to see threads where people ask for the 12,420st time when they are about to come out. Maybe next time they won't show any proto-pics, because of all the hassle. I'm sure it's quite annoying when people comment on how others "might" think, instead of realizing people take interest in some of their favorite companie's future projects and might not have read all of the threads in the entire forum. But thats just me

Have you gotten your's metered? I could do 4 15s and maybe a larger amp, AQ3500d or something, that would keep me within my budget... almost haha.

I wish it would be like 22.5, then no one would be allowed to bring up the jackhammer again haha.

AQ2200d used, if they are dual one ohm coils, see them for 300 shipped all the time.

Haha its my damn blackberry's fault! I was comparing it to other 21 and 22 inch HT subs, but I guess it would have a lower overall Q, more efficient, and smaller Vas so hopefully they wouldn't need 20 cubes each haha. I guess I could put the seats on top of my car, it would be windy, but better views I guess...

Yeah I was worried about too much on 2 3KWDs, supposed to be 3200-3500 a piece, near doubling the 1750 rating, I am afraid of the thermal handling at low frequencies, if I had a high tuning I wouldn't worry, but mechanical failure... Maybe I'll just do two btl 18s like I intended, 4 xcon 15s would be too expensive

HOLY, rainbow isn't a cheap (nor is bad quality.) brand. But i would also consider BladeICE to buy a Fi sub, like the BL. Not a IB3 like a guy suggested. IB3 is for infinite baffle aplications only, no box at all. EDIT:NCSU ECE, 10's get low as easy as a 18 inch sub, no difference in sizes,except output. I'm well aware of that... But he wanted output and the last time I checked, it takes 4 times the amount of drivers (sd) or power to have the same SPL at half an octave, considering he wants output down low, a 10 won't cut it. I never said one "plays" lower. An 18 is cheaper than 2 15s and he has a budget, so if you are suggesting 4 10s, that does not fit his goal of less than 500 for drivers.

Would that reach my goal though? Two of those on one of those 3KWDs?

Yeah do a single 18, they get low so easy. I'm on the hunt for a pair right now, how much are Fi Qs or Bls shipped there?

I'm gonna need an oddly shaped coin haha. Too many choices! Do the xcons like that much power?

Well, I want the best of both worlds I guess haha, but who doesn't. BTL is the only Fi driver I haven't owned/heard so I don't know how it compares to the Bl or Q. Haven't heard the sundowns and I love the SSAs. Could two XCON 18s, 4 ICON 15s, 2 BTl 18s, something like that fit the bill? I could take a trip to mooresville to listen to those sundowns I guess, need to go by charlotte anyway.

Yeah, I have gone back and forth between SSA, Fi BTLs, IA DPs, AAs, DCs, RDs, exodus, bazooka tubes... Wait a second.. But I would prefer to have the lowest price tag and still be at or above 150 at 30 Hz. Whether it be 21s 18s 15s, don't really care, what set up would you choose?

Ahh damn, I really want two of those BTL 22s haha. Might take up my whole cabin in my tahoe, but who cares, it would be SICK

Ahh damn, I really want two of those BTL 22s haha. Might take up my whole cabin in my tahoe, but who cares, it would be SICK

Ahh damn, I really want two of those BTL 22s haha. Might take up my whole cabin in my tahoe, but who cares, it would be SICK

Out of curiosity, what do you consider "no name"?

I don't see why ED should be kept out. Many people have bad experiences, yes, but many of us have never had a problem. There is no need to bias against a product completely because some people don't like their business practices. Its not the best for sure, but options are great. Not that this has much relevance (sorry denim, I know you just got on someone for this) but my 4 13av.2s hit 147.8 in the dash legal on music, although that was with over 4000 watts. They aren't very efficient, even for a low Fs, high Q, SQ type sub, BUT, they are cheap. They can be found for lower than 250 each, not bad. After that being said, I guess I still wouldn't recommend them lol. XCON, ICON, Fi Q or IB3, exodus maelstrom, soundsplinter, all great choices.

I am going to buy one and see, I'll give a review and some more pics. Maybe I will get one and make a chain too!

Wow what's the difference haha? How do you like those tweeters jay-cee?

Carpeting can be one of the easiest parts in my opinion, but then again, I had previous vinyl and wallpaper experience, kind of similar I guess. With practice that gets pretty easy. You will definately be suprised by the BL 15 if you are hoping for 135.

Not sure if you are still deciding, I am just throwing in my late 2 cents. If you have ever heard them side by side in relatively similar enclosures, the BL is much louder and in my opinion, does not lack the sound quality that your friend would seem to care for, granted I don't know him. I think someone already said that, just adding my opinion.