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I know install is 75% of the sound stage, I will start with the door pod's I have now for the 6.5 and the tweeter in the spot I have them know. I will place the 6x9 under the armrest behind the midrange. I can make them on axis also. I will move the tweeter's around with velcro if I can't get them to sound good mounted flat in the door. I can make pods for the tweters to put the on axis. I will NOT put speakers's in the kick pod's as I live in Colorado and they would get destroyed. Damn you type to fast M5, I will anwser the next post now.

I have placed the tweeters I have now in the door, a-piilar and in the factory location against the winshield. I understand I will have to work with placement to achieve a good sound stage, but every setup and speaker is different. The XS crossover has ALOT of adjustment for tweeter placement ALSO. I know I can raise the sound stage with a little EQ if needed. The passenger midrange in my car is on axis with me and the driver's side is less than 30 degrees from the use of door pod's.

HA, HA now I think I know where you got your handle, I use to ride ArticCat M5. I rode the M7 after that but I'm 200 lbs so I liked the lower M5 more.

x2 through Fi's website...only thing, i never left Hey x3 for Fi website.....How did I end up there? "my eye" of course. I had been looking at RE, TREO, Memphis, Matts, and any other high powered name brand sub I could when I found Fi on youtube.

I only filled the seat rail part. What you see in the picture is just what came out the holes. I am debating filling the bottom door jam and a-b pillars because I think they all connect together and noise travels through them like a cave or tunnel. this will be VERY LAST thing I do if at all. Probly make the car not crumple like it's suppose to in a wreck though? I glued the LLP right to the damplifier, I think the glue is important because otherwise theres open space under and noise can travel easier. also connects all layers to create one thick layer.(metal,damplifier,CCF,MLV) The foam does not possess the force to bent the steel. I think the foam would not expand all the way before bending 18-16ga steel. I am REALLY excited to do around the box because this will encase most of the rear wheel wells with the foam. I think the foam is very effective in holding a panel from resonating.

Ordered 4 more sheets of LLP and another 40 sq ft of Damplifier. I also ordered 15 more feet of power wire from knu konceptz, should be enough wire to finish all the power. I got the car put back together also. GOD I should be close to installing the box. You know what the say: 7 P's= Prior Proper Planning Prevents Piss Poor Peformance...... Ya I do nice work, just not very much of it.

M5 nailed it on the head. If you are going to attemp sound deadening I suggest understanding the science behind what you are trying to accomplish. A car will NEVER be dead silent or free of resonation, but can become ALOT quieter than they came from the factory. This is why you must understand what the end result will be and NOT expect the car to be DEAD silent but alot quieter. Mass loaded vinyl not only blocks outside noises but will also trap the sound of my stereo inside the car, WHERE I WANT IT.

I would Love to hear from a few people that have used Luxury liner pro. I have 4 sheets of LLP. I bought the LLP with the plans of installing on the front floors and under the front door panels. If I have any left I plan on the front of the rear wheel wells. The box will be forward firing with the trunck sealed off. I have already dampenered the inside of the car. My goals are to lower the highway road noise and just to lower the noise floor of the car. I realize every application is differant but would like to hear what results and experiences some people have had with the LLP. I have used the search function with no luck and also went to the SS forum but them guys are into overkill, and I trust you guys opinion's more. Budget is not a problem but I don't want to waste money either.......I've seen people do alot of stupid shit and don't need to be that guy.

Yes damener is to stop panel resonantion. Do People NEED dampener under the CCF or MLV on the floor, Probly not but I went the extra little bit beacuse I DON'T plan on ever removing again!!! Dampener is like holding your finger in the middle of a resonating panel, This is why you want the Mass of the dampener in the middle of big panels acting as your finger. I will only be biulding up mass on the centers of the front doors everything else will only be the single layer. The only other place I can think of needing mass is the middle of the roof, once again the last thing I will do. Yes the ideal coverage of CCF and MLV would be EVERYWHERE and unbroken, unfortunately this is not possible in a car(humps, curves, shifter, pedal rods, steering column, opening doors, glass, where the trim and bolts go) so we do the best we can and live with it. If I ever do another car I will try doing the layers seperate, not because I don't like LLP beause I do, just to see for myself what is easier and what works better. I love to learn SO I am learning and hopefully so is someone else. I did 2-3 pieces of foil tape on all edges and seems,unless you are goint to glue EVERY edge perfect I still recommend the tape. I bought my tape at wal-mart ant it was VERY sticky and RIGID. Let me know if you have any questions, I am glad to share. Good luck getting the upholstery back in if you use the carpet pad.....

Ground loop is when voltage changes from different points in the car due to resistance in the paths of current. This can be measured with a DMM, don't waste your time though. Just make sure all the audio grounds are hooked to the same spot. If this doesn't work, run a small wire from the battery ground to the ground point then you know you have no voltage drop. This wire only has to be 14-12ga. and does NOT need a fuse.

Whine is usaully from poor ground wiring or ground loop. So make sure all the audio grounds are hooked to a good spot, and you can even run a small wire from the battery for ground loop. Hook ALL Audio grounds to the SAME spot if possible.

It should, same application really Lead sheeting works in the car too, but it isn't so cost effective. Might add on just a couple more pounds too, just a couple. Which is also the goal. Yes weight and mass are good things, just not to much or in the WRONG places.

Both tweeters look pretty good, the Vifi has a little smoother response. I wanna try a textile tweeter someday. Either one plays pretty low, definetly good for active. I can't wait to see how you like em'. Is this your first active set-up? I drive to SoCal 3-4 times a year with the familly in my honda, I might have to find a show when I'm there, otherwise I will probly find one here in colorado on the Eastern Slope. My biggest problem is I work weekends, F*cks my schedule all up........

Gotta love Dr.s. I gotta go get my junk scoped next week.............fun,fun.

The total weight added to the car from LLP and Damplifier will be 153lbs. This will be a total of 8 sheets LLP @10.8 lbs a sheet and 100 sq ft Damplifier @ .65 lbs a sq ft. I just ordered another 4 sheets of LLP and another 40 sq ft Damplifier, I wish Don would of called but I can't wait for other people, not my style. f*ck at least I'm spending every dollar I can to People in America, Lets get this MuthaFucka rollin' again.

That is the nice thing about buying some a month before starting and more now. Not Paying all at once is easier.

Well I said f*ck it, its only money and did the whole floor. I already have THE car back together also!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am going to order another 4 sheets LLP and DO the WHOLE BUBBLE........should be sweet!!!!! Filled the seat rails with Expading Foam..........couldn't have the extra material there. I think it shall be quiet.

Here's a picture of the first piece.....You guys should know by now how anal I am about being patient and taking my time. Don hasn't called so no words of wisdom there yet.... just the test fit......

I have a piece cut to fit and you could proply get away with not glueing, very rigid stuff.(think wrestling mat) I will probably glue it down anyways. I DO know I MUST tape all edges and seams with foil tape. I will post a picture in a few.