Deathwish238

The dude I'm buying my amp from is also selling a D2 for less than $200. I think I'm gonna pick it up. I've been reading about the D2 and researching and it looks sweeeeeet.

So is 20Hz just a Home Theater thing? How low should I aim for then for the lowest possible extension in music(well rap I suppose)?

Thank you for the welcome I listen to metal, rap, hard rock, alternative, trance(mostly progressive), r&b. SQ matters a lot to me...but I'm a basshead and want to be able to feel the bass pounding in my lungs when I want. Whenever I look at a sub I make sure it can hit atleast 20Hz if not 16 Hz. But it looks like I will have to compromise in car audio as those subs usually need a much bigger box than the 2 cu ft that I want to limit my box to. So I would like the bass to be atleast 30Hz or below at -3dB. But will compromise more if I realllly need to. I have a Pioneer Premier PRS-X720 amp. It's rated at 400W RMS @ 4 ohm but its birthsheet has it rated at a little over 800@ RMS @ 4 ohm. It is very common for the amp to have double its rated output. I don't want to run the amp at max so I'm trying to limit the wattage I use to 700. My budget...well for the time being I'm trying to spend less than $200 on the sub and I dunno $50 on a box. I want a 12" sub...I don't have the room for a 15". I spent a lot of time on sounddomain, elite car audio, car audio, and car audio forums gathering information. The subs I considered are: IDMAX OZ Audio Matrix Elite Resonant Engineering SE Infinity Perfect 12.1 Dayton MKIII Dayton High Fidelity Elemental Designs OV line W3 Alpine Type R Kicker Comp O Audio TC2+ HSU ASW-1203 Soundsplinter rl-p The subs I am still considering: Dayton MKIII Dayton High Fidelity Soundsplinter rl-p IDMAX OZ ME Alpine Type R I am leaning heavily towards the Dayton HF...but slowly but surely going to the rl-p. I'm a very number based persons as I can't really hear the subs and 97% of the people I've talked to haven't heard the Daytons... I'm hoping to find someone that has heard the Dayton MKIII and/or HF AND the rl-p. That will help me make my decision a great deal.

I'm considering the Dayton MKIII and High Fidelity subs as well as the RL-P myself. The Daytons are EXCELLENT for car audio. The MKIII hit very very low...around 25Hz in a 2 cu ft ported box. The High Fidelity in a 2 cu ft box hit a little higher around 28 Hz but have more SPL. The HF has a bit less SPL than say an IDMAX or RL-P but it will be cleaner. Dayton is designed for HT, but their subs perform great in smaller car oriented boxes as well. You won't go wrong with one if the RL-P is no longer an option. Pick the MKIII if you want more low end and the HF if you want cleaner and more SPL. Do a search on sounddomain and you'll find a lot of info about the MKIII and High Fidelity subs.

I'ld look at other companys over JBL personally. JBL is good, but imo there are better. Check out the Resonant Engineering XXX for example. Browse the forums you'll find lots of info.

yeah...that car is fugly. I want to cry. He has 5" for highs...like 10 of them. That's...just....

Anyone on these boards live near either Austin, TX or DFW, TX make boxes? I'm gonna need a ported box made and don't have time to make one. I'll pay well