those numbers are indeed with the factory "hold-back". the RL-s did 137.9 legal on a TL off a factory GM head unit. (well, it did have help from the orion 2500d wired at 3.5ohm nominal). james, as in defending street a world champ (though he's having a few issues as of right now,lol) thought with a lil tweaking, we could have gotten a 140 with the setup as is. but i was beyond pleased with the 137.9. psycho, only news is the rl-s is on it's way to jellyfish to play with. the rl-s is one monster of a sub. loud, low and clean. it's jsut simply one of the best, if not the best, sub i have ever had the pleasure of listening too. even in a box considered too small, by parameters, it is one awesome machine! wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That is a nice score man, was thinking bout checking out a rl-s, but wanted a good review first. Btw how much power is that getting anyways at 3.5 ohm s , cuz i dont wanna put anything down or get flammed on my first post but i did a 140.8 with my 12w7 in a box tuned to 28 at 36 hz on the new tl's ... with a 1000/1 on it, nice score tho .. i still wanna see CA&E do a review on the w7 rl-s and the new xxx.. that would be a good review for all the hype LSQ sub peeps like me