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Other way around, you have proven over and over that you don't. Good that you are in marketing/sales and not development, although I question that as well as you could have a hell of a lot more successful company. Extra surface area, lol. Great reason to apply a damper. You crack me up. I am sure you again won't back that up. (Probably better if you don't try ) You are actually following me around, look who posted here first. I treat you no differently than anyone that posts incorrect information. I call everyone out equally. I hope it makes you feel uncomfortable posting lies and incorrect information as I have no tolerance for that. As for distancing people on the forum, I am aware that the kneejerk reaction is to not like my approach but most people who have lashed out at me also send me PM's thanking me for actually helping them instead of just giving them a canned answer not based on their needs. What really sucks is that you are a vendor on this forum, but don't support it. You claimed you'd show us through responding in threads that you care about the forum and again proved this isn't the case. You care about moving product and even do it unethically like recommending that people put Spectrum on their hoods. If you want to do that on DIYMA where you own the forum I can't and therefore don't say shit, but I won't let that misinformation fly here. The editing you request won't happen on this forum unlike others as that shady shit doesn't fly here. If you can't take the time to be up front, honest, and forthcoming then it is easy you don't have to post. I wouldn't want to look stupid either. Feel free to not. I'll refrain from ripping your last post apart this time. Just get your facts right next time so we don't have to go through this again. It isn't fun for me either. I've never hid from my motives. I want this forum to be a great place of information for everyone with no BS. Your posts show that your motives are to sell your product even if it means to not give solid advice. Either you do this exclusively for your pocket or you truly don't understand what you sell. Not sure which is your "motive" but my response to either will be the same. I do know if your motives were truly to improve the board you'd welcome other vendors, so I guess we can assume what yours are as well.

If the Sundown isn't worth $230 more to you, then go with MBQ.

yea, while psychoacoustics plays a role in alot of peoples comparasons, its not always like that, go from a lower quality amp to a higher quality amp and its almost a guarentee that ur going to hear some kind of a difference.

lol my little pos "boomstick" (cheap ass walmart db meter) confirmed it when i raised from a 127.8 to a 129.4

i just got my saz1500d and it replaced the hifonics 1610d and it made a huge difference...not only was it louder, but it sounded cleaner. like the bass was much more crisp.

Icon and Q are in the same league : great sq, but great output too. It seems to be what you need, but the "high volume" point makes people think about the bl or other loud drivers for you ! It will be difficult to find a used Xcon, but that would be your best choice IMO. Xcon = best of both world !!!

Don't get me wrong the "Q" is a great woofer, it's just not designed to be played at high volumes or generate high spl. The SSD or BL is better suited for your application. Both can be played at high volumes, get very loud and still sound good. Another option you may want to look into is the SSA XCON or ICON.

I think you might not fully understand the abilities of viscoelastic coatings. In addition to reducing stucture borne noise, they also have a very good mass loading effect. The only issue with them is that a decoupler is not in place, so the results are not as good as a true barrier. These coatings however, will reduce more aiborne noise than constraint layer dampers (when applied at similar thicknesses) . As I stated in my previous post, the difference between the vinyl formulation and the coatings formulation is just a few small changes in resin type (an a couple small addatives) the cured elastomeric coatings are very similar to the vinyl barriers. Barriers however do not exhibit the same viscoelastic nature as the coatings do. Applying a coating on the hood is a great way to pick up extra surface area when you are trying to nail down the last few trouble spots. As you drive, the engine noise travels through your fireswall, in to the cabin. This is where most of the engine noise that we hear comes from. The rest comes either from under the car, or over the car. Some sound waves go through the hood, which then enter through our windshield and ceiling, or under the car through the floor pan. Anythin you put between the source of the noise, and your ears will, to some degree reduce noise. Some things are obviously better than others which is why using the most efficient product for the desired goals is always ideal. That being said, Spectrum is a very cabale vibration damper and to some degree (a larger degree than other products) will reduce airborne noise as well. There is simply no way around this ////M5 I konw you are going to chime in, and try to tear my logic apart. I know your motives. I am sure you want to help people on this forum. I have read your other threads, and though I do not always agree your negative tone and methods, I can appreciate your blunt honesty, and I do know that you know your shit. But please, if you are going to continue to follow me around this forum, and try to evoke a response by talking trash about me, even in threads that I am not posting in, I would encoureage you to stop. No only does it make me feel uncomfortable coming to this forum, ( a forum I am a vendor on) but I am sure you are driving away other members of this forum as well. Several have spoken to me about how you make them feel uncomfortable as well. Don't expect me to jump in to any further debate with you, as I already konw how it will end up. ANT

Me to. Putting it on the hood is even worse than your other recommendations. Perhaps you would like to enlighten us as to how that will reduce road noise, although at this point I don't expect you will respond.

Damn some of you guys are pityful trying to get discounts all day long when clearly he is already giving a discount (I bet if Jacob were giving these subs out for free if you pay for shipping then yall would still have something to say about it). How bout you guys stop junking up the posts about nonsense and talk about the sub or place some orders.

Its because they are worth repairing while others are cheaper to just get a new one. If you are considering the MB Quart 1500D, then take a look at the Audiopipe AP1500D. $160 shipped. They do rated power.

Not tossing rocks at your purchase or how you feel about the way it sounds, but I doubt it actually did. Psychoacoustics more likely.

I don't have much experience with the SSDs... j/k. I vote for 10" SSD, copper coils, and bp option. Put it in 1.25 net tops if you are going to give it more than 1000 watts. Going with a 10" sub would be easier to fit your box into the mustang trunk. I hate those trunk openings unless you build the box inside the trunk. Going with a 10 and bigger port opening might get you louder than going with a 12 SSD in minimal box with small opening.

X2 to what jay-cee said with the mustang trunks. It was hard to fit anything into the trunk of my 2009 and the openings on the 2010's are even smaller.

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