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I talked to Stephen today for a good hour. He was bouncing ideas off me and me back at him. We discussed the new heatsink as well. If he decides to use the idea he told me about, you can call the pharmacist and cancel all your prescriptions for Viaga, Cialis and the like. I promise these amps are going to be so damn sexy you wont need the scripts anymore, heck you might even be able to kick the wife or girlfriend out cause she wont be needed anymore! Seriously though, after what we talked about, these new amps are going to be some of the sexiest amps on planet earth. I wished I could spill the beans but I was asked not to. We appear to be still out about 90 days on production though I dont have any use for my pair that im ordering but I just have to have them!

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Please dont. After they stole a design of mine to use themselves, tried to lie their way out of it I called it quits. Also- from an actual product standpoint- Look at the spider set up. its one spider, dipped in resin. these start to sag VERY quickly. ask terra how the line of subs he had built for him are working out they are a bunch of lying thieves who "build speakers" from a shed in there backyard. Im asking you honestly- PLEASE look elsewhere. Can you explain in any more detail on what they stole? Curious as I thought they looked like a quality built product. Long story short- I went to pap with a design I wanted built, gave them the specs, etc. They were very nice to me. I ran into some family issues making me unable to proceed with it. Terra (owner of cascade audio, and a friend) then approached me asking if I could use the design, I agreed, but by then it was to late... PAP already had taken the design (down to the "t", as i believe the expression goes) and started production on it as "the new WMD!"". Now, it isnt the greatest design, or even anything super special, really, however, it is beyond low class to steal a design. simple as that. And then you have another poster claim they stole pics/powder coating from him.. it just gets longer! Why would ANYONE buy from them?? (to the op- I am NOT attacking you. I sincerely hope this woofer is what you are looking for, and treats you well, leaves you satisfied!) Also- these come from Terra, and you certianly don't have to believe me on them, but here is some of the issues with his line of speakers (built by pap) 1. He offered 2 choices of colors for frames- purple and green, iirc. "somehow" other pap customers seemed to be getting these colored frames, even though there was an agreement between pap and cascade that would not be happening. 2. Dust Caps folding. PAP used cheap thin cardboard caps on the omega's.. A high percentage of them have creased the caps, or even blown them completely off. 3. Aforementioned spider sag. 4. breach of confidentiality. PAP posted pics of them building the omega's. This was a problem as (and I think most build houses do or have this) there was an agreement that pap would of course NOT post who they built for, or what lines they built for them. In case that brand owner/representative did not want this disclosed. (I'm pretty sure Terra didn't..) 5. parts availability- PAP wanted blown omega's sent to them to be reconed vs. selling Terra the recones. now, this seems like less of a headache for Terra, but see above about confidentiality.. Notice how cascades never get reconed by Terra.. ya.. there is a reason. no parts. I'm sure there is more, but I either do not know it, or cannot think of it ATM. Again-OP best of luck, i really mean that. I hope its a great sub, it sure looks pretty. Also- this is just a random thought- that WMD they sell for 700 bucks (or whatever it was) was to be sold to me at around 325 each (and even at that level they make a nice profit I'm sure!) Quite a markup! Lord Baccus for a spokesman really doesnt help either... unless you are marketing to the inbred hillbilly crowd:p

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in and playing. need a ground loop isolator cuz my 7800 has grounding issues and an EQ. sounds ok but need to be able to change the eq per set of speakers.