Competing with Daily setting?

[ThomasG 0]

Well im not sure what to choose SPL or Daily on a BTL. I want to find a sub that i can Use for Daily and SPL. Does the SPL setting sound like complete ass on music or is it not to bad? Is the daily still pretty good for competing?

My woofer is great for daily but not good for competing unless i buy another since its dual 6 ohm. and im a single set up guy.

Anyone compete with the daily setting?

Anyone listen to music with the SPL setting?

thanks

[JimJ 11]

Comes down to how picky you are, and how much of a compromise you're willing to live with...using a BTL daily is a pretty heavy compromise to begin with.

[tejcurrent 13]

Go to the tech section of the forum and look at the BTL specs and it will explain all of the options to you.

In this section it says flat out DO NOT get the SPL option for daily use, only daily. With some of the other options you are looking at a pretty good sub for daily listening that can get obnoxiously loud for competition as well.

I have the daily setting, and I'm tuned to around 34-35hzish. I'm extremely pleased with the way it sounds.

How much power were you planning on putting on the sub for burps, and how much for daily?

[dopey 0]

Comes down to how picky you are, and how much of a compromise you're willing to live with...using a BTL daily is a pretty heavy compromise to begin with.

Maybe for Jim"sq"J...but I think they sound better than Image Dynamics I used to run.

NOTHING wrong with BTL sq...very respectable, and they get loud as piss too.

edit: MY BTL is daily @ 31hz, and I love the way it sounds. Ask Jim what kinda BTL he has.

Edited June 27, 2007 by dopey

[ANeonRider 3]

Are you done fucking the vented pole of the Fi BTL yet?

[ThomasG 0]

Go to the tech section of the forum and look at the BTL specs and it will explain all of the options to you.

In this section it says flat out DO NOT get the SPL option for daily use, only daily. With some of the other options you are looking at a pretty good sub for daily listening that can get obnoxiously loud for competition as well.

I have the daily setting, and I'm tuned to around 34-35hzish. I'm extremely pleased with the way it sounds.

How much power were you planning on putting on the sub for burps, and how much for daily?

2500 for daily not sure how much for burps.. maybe just the same

[Acidburn 10]

Are you done pucking the vented pole of the Fi BTL yet?

seriously

[ThomasG 0]

im pretty new to this forum dont really know where to go for reviews? Anyone link me to a detailed BTL review?

[theabunai 3]

Honestly the BTL review will be subjective and depend on individual enclosure, tuning, install and options available....

I think ALL subs have SPL capabilities and all have the ability to be used for daily...

i think what they mean by compromise is are you wanting to edge over others within a fraction of a decibel ?

Or are you just going to competitions on occasion and listen to your system more of a daily type scenario...

once these questions are answered i think people could point you in the right direction...

[dopey 0]

Are you done fucking the vented pole of the Fi BTL yet?

You talkin to me?

[topgun 262]

Are you done fucking the vented pole of the Fi BTL yet?

You talkin to me?

*looks over shoulder*

*looks around corner*

*sees no-one else*

Yep, looks like it.

[ThomasG 0]

Honestly the BTL review will be subjective and depend on individual enclosure, tuning, install and options available....

I think ALL subs have SPL capabilities and all have the ability to be used for daily...

i think what they mean by compromise is are you wanting to edge over others within a fraction of a decibel ?

Or are you just going to competitions on occasion and listen to your system more of a daily type scenario...

once these questions are answered i think people could point you in the right direction...

Yea ill be listening to it daily more than competition..

I was just wondering if the BTL is right for me. I want a daily driver but also a sub that will kick ass at comps

[dopey 0]

Are you done fucking the vented pole of the Fi BTL yet?

You talkin to me?

*looks over shoulder*

*looks around corner*

*sees no-one else*

Yep, looks like it.

Hmmmm....I guess no one told that dipshit that the BTL doesn't HAVE a vented pole.

Edited June 27, 2007 by dopey

[theabunai 3]

Honestly the BTL review will be subjective and depend on individual enclosure, tuning, install and options available....

I think ALL subs have SPL capabilities and all have the ability to be used for daily...

i think what they mean by compromise is are you wanting to edge over others within a fraction of a decibel ?

Or are you just going to competitions on occasion and listen to your system more of a daily type scenario...

once these questions are answered i think people could point you in the right direction...

Yea ill be listening to it daily more than competition..

I was just wondering if the BTL is right for me. I want a daily driver but also a sub that will kick ass at comps

It "CAN" be right for you....

Now that we have established what the majority of your subs will be used for..

We can move on to more detailed questions...

What kind of amp you have delivering that 2500 watts ?

A BTL is first and foremost IMO a SPL sub..... BUT you can add some options to make it work for Daily as well.... A BL is a great Daily sub that can be optioned up to be an SPL sub....

It depends on the install as well....

BL is IMO a better choice for Daily and yeah it can "put up" some numbers in SPL when called upon....

This is not to say you can't go daily with a BTL with the right tuning, enclosure and options it can be a good Daily pounder.

End point

BTL great SPL sub good for daily

BL great Daily sub good for SPL

Edited June 27, 2007 by theabunai

[JimJ 11]

Ask Jim what kinda BTL he has.

IIRC, they didn't have all the options they do now when I heard the 12". But that doesn't change the fact that a highly overmotored sub like the BTL is not and never will have as flat of a response as some of Fi's other offerings. Nor should it, that's not its design goal. Maybe you like a more peaky substage, and that's why it sounds better to you, I don't know. We all hear things differently.

Maybe I should ask you what systems you've listened to that you'd consider a "reference" to how something is supposed to sound?

[ngsm13 1]

Meh.

nG

[acsamples21 0]

Well i just ordered a BTL with a Third slug and the hiXm coil.... dual 2 ohm but i did select SPL! now im not HUGE on comps even though id like to get into them! very much! but i also like to cruise around town with the subs blasten on music to show people up ( i gotta small town) so im kinda worried about that!!! i want it to be atleast ACCEPTABLE with music but i do want it to be LOUD for comps!!! Should i be really worried? its already been shipped

[tejcurrent 13]

http://www.soundsolutionsaudio.com/forum/i...mp;#entry263603

simple review.

I like a peaky substage

[JimJ 11]

but i also like to cruise around town with the subs blasten on music to show people up ( i gotta small town) so im kinda worried about that!!!

I'd be more worried about paying for noise violations than what the sub sounds like.

[acsamples21 0]

haha no im not too worried about noise violations here! the cops in my small town would most likely ask to see my setup! we have the most crooked cops in the world! they just really dont care! but Places like the cities next to me YEAH i am worried about the noise violations

[ThomasG 0]

Honestly the BTL review will be subjective and depend on individual enclosure, tuning, install and options available....

I think ALL subs have SPL capabilities and all have the ability to be used for daily...

i think what they mean by compromise is are you wanting to edge over others within a fraction of a decibel ?

Or are you just going to competitions on occasion and listen to your system more of a daily type scenario...

once these questions are answered i think people could point you in the right direction...

Yea ill be listening to it daily more than competition..

I was just wondering if the BTL is right for me. I want a daily driver but also a sub that will kick ass at comps

It "CAN" be right for you....

Now that we have established what the majority of your subs will be used for..

We can move on to more detailed questions...

What kind of amp you have delivering that 2500 watts ?

A BTL is first and foremost IMO a SPL sub..... BUT you can add some options to make it work for Daily as well.... A BL is a great Daily sub that can be optioned up to be an SPL sub....

It depends on the install as well....

BL is IMO a better choice for Daily and yeah it can "put up" some numbers in SPL when called upon....

This is not to say you can't go daily with a BTL with the right tuning, enclosure and options it can be a good Daily pounder.

End point

BTL great SPL sub good for daily

BL great Daily sub good for SPL

Orion 2500D ill wire it at .5 ohm so it acutally will see a little bit more than 2500

and i plan on buying some nice components along with the sub. Right now im just running cox's

And it will be put in a very nice box. Properly designed and built

,

[///M5 2,833]

Comes down to how picky you are, and how much of a compromise you're willing to live with...using a BTL daily is a pretty heavy compromise to begin with.

Maybe for Jim"sq"J...but I think they sound better than Image Dynamics I used to run.

NOTHING wrong with BTL sq...very respectable, and they get loud as piss too.

edit: MY BTL is daily @ 31hz, and I love the way it sounds. Ask Jim what kinda BTL he has.

God, I always thought your name was fitting but you have finally taken the cake and swallowed the damn thing whole.

[tejcurrent 13]

Well i just ordered a BTL with a Third slug and the hiXm coil.... dual 2 ohm but i did select SPL! now im not HUGE on comps even though id like to get into them! very much! but i also like to cruise around town with the subs blasten on music to show people up ( i gotta small town) so im kinda worried about that!!! i want it to be atleast ACCEPTABLE with music but i do want it to be LOUD for comps!!! Should i be really worried? its already been shipped

If you just ordered you might be able to get it right-it takes a few days to make and just shows its being shipped. I would be worried, but email scott(ficaraudio) or nick (ndmustang) as soon as possible to try to get things cleared up.

[bigjae1976 0]

When RE had the MTs...everyone used to b1tch about them blowing so fast and easily.

I think Fi was VERY smart to offer the daily option for the BTL which is similar to the MT...a purpose built SPL sub.

With that said. I'm sure Fi knows their subs. If they say pick the daily option for daily use...pick the daily option.

You could order 1 with the daily option and another one with the SPL option for comps. Just change them out before the comp.

Or just compete with the daily subs. Might not win but comps are more about having fun, learning, and meeting other people.

[acsamples21 0]

okay, well i emailed scott about changing but i havent recieved a reply and im worried! on whether or not he will get it before he makes my sub....does anyone have a phone number to call? i need it fixed