new and improved front stage

[kryptonitewhite 1]

yup, the shit's still in the ceiling and it's gonna stay there. if you need to hear the drummer strait ahead and back 7 feet, the back up singer come 3 feet deep from 7 feet from your right, lead guitar and vocalist strait ahead yadda yadda... if you're all about staging, imaging, using time delay, phase, and EQ.... GOOD FOR YOU!

I like it loud and clear. it is loud and clear. I like a ton of midbass and a ton of high treble and easy on the low treble and easy on the midrange.

So this thing has come a long way, I now have:

Alpine IVA-W505 touch screen DVD player so that I can use the touch screen to control the digital Alpine PXA-H701 crossover/processor.

I have (2) Kicker KX850.4s bridged on (4) Adire Audio Extremis 6.4s with XBL^2, neo, aluminum/copper shorting rings with the Alpine HP 100Hz 24dB/oct.... I can run these things down to 35Hz easily, but with 1.7kW on tap for the midbasses alone, for as loud as I have them, even crossed at 100Hz I still get more content below 80Hz than most people have. I have the Kicker Crossovers all the waydown at 50Hz 12dB/oct.... 1 octave below the Alpine... for a touch more filtering and for protection... a couple times I have hit a wrong button resetting the EQ completely and had the battery situation which reset theAlpine as well...if it wasn't for the Kicker crossovers I'd have blown all 10 drivers instantly at high volume. LP set to 560Hz 24dB/oct.

(1) Kicker KX650.4 bridged on (2) CSS FR125S 4.5" full range XBL^2 copper/aluminum shorting rings copper phase plugs 560Hz 24dB HP Alpine 200Hz 12dB Kicker for protection from resetting the Alpine 5kHz 24dB LP

(1) Kicker SX500/2 on (4) Vifa XT25TG30 1" Ring Radiator tweets 16kHz 6dB/oct slope Alpine so that the high end is louder and the lower end is quieter, the way I like it, then the Kicker SX crossover set to 5kHz 24dB/oct, Alpine LP 20kHz 6dB/oct just in case, not that there should be much above 17-18kHz ever getting sent out from the HU.

[An-i-no 86]

If its the best you've ever heard and you built it, paid for it, and set it up?

That's a Damn good feeling. I don't see how ppl can have any aversion to that.

[kryptonitewhite 1]

If its the best you've ever heard and you built it, paid for it, and set it up?

That's a Damn good feeling. I don't see how ppl can have any aversion to that.

sure does feel pretty damn good

finally ordered the 2nd alternator mounting brackets...get that thing installed and running smooth, some recones with a few extra spiders, and hopefully this thing is done!

[Sir-Lancelot 216]

[kryptonitewhite 1]

cheers!

I tried dropping them to 3kHz for the hell of it, uh-uh nope. messed with the Extremis again too, everywhere from 125Hz on Alpine 125Hz Kicker, to 50Hz Alpine 50Hz Kicker.... I can never leave well enough alone!

[kryptonitewhite 1]

dropped the Extremis off the Alpine to 50Hz... man I want to compete!

[kryptonitewhite 1]

bassed off these

my version

[kryptonitewhite 1]

I still wasn't getting the U shape I want, the tweets just weren't bringing up the top end...so I REW'ed the FR125S's with the LP off to see where they were getting me: 8kHz then they fell hard... so I set the LP to 8kHz and the HP for the tweets at a hard 30dB alpine and 36dB SX for a total of 66dB @ 8kHz, put the line driver back in and adjusted, now it is where I want it!

[Randal Johnson 544]

Have you ever put your vehicle in competition to see how it scores ?? I'd be very interested to see how a setup like that does ...

[kryptonitewhite 1]

Cable, I am so anxious and excited to bring them to a comp! I am glad I haven't yet, almost made Wheel Jam in Huron back in May... but if I had, it was a whole different thing back then. I have since changed my crossover points and slopes and it's a whole new, better beast

I am scared to death though, my crossovers are still very out of the norm, but even more so driver location. Ceiling? "Attention employees: We need a clean up on isle 5. Clean up on isle 5. Thank you!. CLICK."

I don't do time delay or speaker distance, don't EQ, no phase shifting: I picked the flattest drivers I could find at the time, the cheapest good amps, changed the crossover and amps since then... and let the vehicle wreack its havoc. let the vehicle do what it does. I run REW, I tweak crossover slopes and gain to get as close to my desired FR responce...which is another trouble i would have if I comp: I am not after "flat", +/-3dB from 30Hz-20kHz. I hit over 130dB with the midbass, but the mid range is down 10-20dB cuz I hate midrange, and the tweets are up 5-10dB from the midrange but not as loud as the midbass. When the subs are in, they are another 10-20dB up from the midbass, so 20-40dB from midrange. That's just LUDACRIS!

:-P

but I like it!

[Randal Johnson 544]

Wish I could hear it ... and your home system ...

[kryptonitewhite 1]

If you were ever in the area I'd be glad to The HT is actually unimpressive except for 30Hz on down... I have tiny cheap walmart in the box cubes for 7 discrete channels of HD audio... they work for me. If I had more $$ I would get CSS FR125SR/quasi tweeter/tweeter/port kits with the XBL^2 4.5s like I have in the van with the tweeter to brighten up the high end. I would be more than happy but still couldn't hit reference 110dB, but I listen with the mains around 65dB anyway. My FR for the house is as odd as in my van:

Mains should be 100db or 110dB, I forget which, then plus 5dB or plus 15dB for LFE. I have 100dB starting at LFE ( 80Hz ) but 120dB ( 5 to 15dB above reference ) from 30Hz down to 10Hz, I can't keep my room pressurized enough once I hit 10Hz...always has fallen off there...but still 115dB reference to 5Hz, that all alone is amazing, and what I love so damn much! I wish you could experience 5Hz-15Hz like you do here, most movies are inactive for the most part...it's not loud boomy and full of action...for the most part you feel more than you hear...but when it gets oud and low... hold on!

[kryptonitewhite 1]

here is my last post on my HT threads... gives a little bit more info than the above post maybe.

I haven't updated this thread in a while, I haven't messed with the HT in about 3 weeks because I am finally satisfied! I took the BFD out..NO EQ! I set the receiver crossover to 40Hz.. :-O ... and I LIKE it! I know, call me crazy, I am! from 30Hz down I have 120dB, when i hit 10Hz I still can't keep the room pressurized..but it's still 115dB down to 5Hz! I am well below reference above 30Hz, but this is how I like it...finally!

I kept trying to boost 63Hz and 80Hz to make it more active, otherwise the subs are invisible most of the time until low heavy passages come up. I wanted to hear the depth in voices through the subs. But every time I tried, or bumped the crossover up to 60Hz and 80Hz, I just hated it! So Here I sit, odd ball that I am. Also, with the EQ, I learned that it is more the 90Hz-150Hz range that I hate so much, not so much 45Hz...as you can see with that giant hole that happens to be there with the walmart cubes falling off and subs falling off. How lucky am I that it just happens like that?

Still love Prison Break... that show is FILLED with single digit ULF, in my house when it's 15-30dB above everything else, it's great. You feel a lot more than you hear. I suppose with a normal setup you wouldn't even know the ULF was even there.

[Dictator 39]

whats up with the fat kid?