thanks for everyones input but yeah .1.) i couldnt refuse the icons for the price i got them for.2.) i was really not impressed wwith my score last time. i blame it on my back seats cause they dont fold down and i was tuned so low. ive always had ported enclosurses in my car and it seems to peak in the low 40's with each box ive had and for power i have been running them offf my cactus at 2ohms and they just soak it up no proplem. when i get the new box built im going to try it at .5ohm and see what happens so now im torn between sub and port placement : subs up port back driver side, subs back port back driver side ,or subs up port across the bottom crx style